Pinup girls with NO tattoos??

[Kitty Luv {★}]

do they exist??

Sorry if this is in the wrong section, wasn't quite sure. Anyway, I'm very torn on the subject of tattoos, and one of my friends told me that you cannot be a pinup with no tattoos. I disagreed. While i'm not totally against the idea of getting one, I don't think it's completely necessary to complete the look either. I gave him the example of Bernie Dexter for instance, who yes...has a few, but isn't all tatted up either. What do you all think?

[Vega {★}]

That's silly! Modern pinup gals just generally happen to also be people who like having tattoos a lot of the time. Ya definitely don't need them to be a pinup model, and in fact one could argue that you'd be a more versatile model without them, because you can pull off really authentic vintage looks!

[Helena Darling]

the wonderful miss c of halifax has no tattoos and she is plenty successfull

and it is never a good idea to get a tattoo to 'complete a look'
you should only get a tattoo if it is something you really want for yourself and noone else,

in any way with or with out tattoos the only thing you need to be a successfull pinup is a positive attitude and love the fact that your a women
there are many different styles of pinup though, not all are tattoo styles

[Helena Darling]

i reall culdnt agree more with that, i am covered in ink and am limited to whatphotographers want to dowith me, while my sister has a few and i ell her to not get alot more, she is working with more photographers who love her versatilatie

Raquelle Vega {★} said:

That's silly! Modern pinup gals just generally happen to also be people who like having tattoos a lot of the time. Ya definitely don't need them to be a pinup model, and in fact one could argue that you'd be a more versatile model without them, because you can pull off really authentic vintage looks!

[Lolita Black]

Of course you can be a pin up and be tattooed. I don't have any tattoos and I'm no model and I can't quite recall her name but there was a pin up who didn't have tattoos. But yes they exist those with tattoos and those without and they are all lovely! So if you want one then feel free, it's your body and no one else should tell you what you have to or can do with it right? It'll be fine!

[Natalie Crack]

well said, edson !!

Edson {PL Team} said:

All you have to do is look around here, you can be thick, slim, tattoo'd, not tattoo'd, tall, or short and be an amazing Pinup. It flows from the inside, and your style.

Tell your friend he is stupid and hit him in the head for me

[Louise LeMans]

Woowoo, right over here! I totally agree that when I flip through Retro Lovely and compare myself to the other girls, I can feel very "boring" without any tattoos or "extra" piercings — but on the other hand, I think it makes me unique.

I agree with some of the others. The original pinups didn't have them. I also think that it tends to be more of an American trend — a lot of the English pinups don't have them, for example. I'll also point out that while not strictly pinup, Dita doesn't have any either.

You can be a pinup regardless of whether you have tattoos or not, your friend seems to have a preconceived notion of what a pinup is. The way I see it, someone out there is going to be into your look, no matter what it is, so keep it up!

[Birdheart]

I think inked girls is just another type of pin up girl, and if you don't have tattoos is just perfectly fine. I don't really like labels, I believe that anyone can be a pin up model with their own style, there are some things that are basic to be a pin up but I enjoy seeing different types of girls .

xoxo

[Miss Audrey Brooks]

Well I would love to chime in on this. I do have one tiny tattoo and a few non obvious piercings and I consider myself to be very much a pinup girl. I never got the stringent rules that are beginning to come around when it comes to this. To me there are MANY types of pinup. I go for the classic, original, authentic 1920s-40s look. Some might think that boring but thats what suits me best. Not that I don't admire the tattooed hotties on here. I am not kitschy or outrageous and I don't actually wrench on cars or do any of that. I do help my husband from time to time with details on our cars but I don't weld or wrench. Remember that the girls that started all this the Betty Grables, the Rita Hayworths and the Louise Brookses never had tattoos. Neither did the beautifully rendered Elvgren or Vargas girls ! Me, I am al about classics, a purist so to speak. There is nothing wrong with either style or something n between. Best part of this is that there are really no rules, it is all attitude and soul ! Who are you on the inside?

[Louise LeMans]

here, here! amen to that. knowing yourself and who you are is what's important, not whether you have ink. i never think of it as who's the "most" whatever or the "best" something else. Pinup isn't a contest (except when it is), it's a form of expression, and all forms are valid!

Miss Audrey Brooks said:

Well I would love to chime in on this. I do have one tiny tattoo and a few non obvious piercings and I consider myself to be very much a pinup girl. I never got the stringent rules that are beginning to come around when it comes to this. To me there are MANY types of pinup. I go for the classic, original, authentic 1920s-40s look. Some might think that boring but thats what suits me best. Not that I don't admire the tattooed hotties on here. I am not kitschy or outrageous and I don't actually wrench on cars or do any of that. I do help my husband from time to time with details on our cars but I don't weld or wrench. Remember that the girls that started all this the Betty Grables, the Rita Hayworths and the Louise Brookses never had tattoos. Neither did the beautifully rendered Elvgren or Vargas girls ! Me, I am al about classics, a purist so to speak. There is nothing wrong with either style or something n between. Best part of this is that there are really no rules, it is all attitude and soul ! Who are you on the inside?

[Miss Audrey Brooks]

Exactly Louise !

It is all about finding yourself and what you feel good with. As I mentioned before I do get kind of odd looks for not being all tatted up and not turning a wrench but Hot Rods and tattoos are not what defines Pinup. Pinup was around long before it was socially acceptable for a girl to be tattooed and before Hotrods became a mainstream thing. The pinups that graced the sides of B-17s over Germany were not the tattooed gearhead girls that seem to be associated with pinup these days. Vargas and Elvgren girls were and still remain graceful, dainty, ladylike and absolutely feminine, they dont scowl, they dont fight they simply are there allowing you a brief glimpse into their world of charming aloofness.

Hotrods didnt become a subculture until after WWII when our fighting men came back from England and Germany and realized that Detroit did offer vehicles of the sporting nature like a Morgan or an MG so they would convert Model A Fords to handle and brake like the European sports cars. Pinup was around 20-30 years before that.

So that said I am a purist, I am inspired by the style of the original pinup girls ! I guess one can say my tendencies tend to be purist on many levels even with cars. If it is from the 1930s-40s I want it bone stock and meticulously restored ! Anyone have a Packard for sale?

Louise LeMans said:

here, here! amen to that. knowing yourself and who you are is what's important, not whether you have ink. i never think of it as who's the "most" whatever or the "best" something else. Pinup isn't a contest (except when it is), it's a form of expression, and all forms are valid!

Miss Audrey Brooks said:

Well I would love to chime in on this. I do have one tiny tattoo and a few non obvious piercings and I consider myself to be very much a pinup girl. I never got the stringent rules that are beginning to come around when it comes to this. To me there are MANY types of pinup. I go for the classic, original, authentic 1920s-40s look. Some might think that boring but thats what suits me best. Not that I don't admire the tattooed hotties on here. I am not kitschy or outrageous and I don't actually wrench on cars or do any of that. I do help my husband from time to time with details on our cars but I don't weld or wrench. Remember that the girls that started all this the Betty Grables, the Rita Hayworths and the Louise Brookses never had tattoos. Neither did the beautifully rendered Elvgren or Vargas girls ! Me, I am al about classics, a purist so to speak. There is nothing wrong with either style or something n between. Best part of this is that there are really no rules, it is all attitude and soul ! Who are you on the inside?

[Louise LeMans]

I agree with all that — I admire those girls, and have lots of friends who'd qualify — but you're more likely to find me digging though a box of vintage purses and gloves than under a car! To each their own, I say. Even though that's not my thing, I respect it!!

Ooooo, a Packard!! I am holding out hope for my grandpa's '53 Corvette, that he's been showing off at car shows for years as a proud GM retiree. :-P

Miss Audrey Brooks said:

Exactly Louise !

It is all about finding yourself and what you feel good with. As I mentioned before I do get kind of odd looks for not being all tatted up and not turning a wrench but Hot Rods and tattoos are not what defines Pinup. Pinup was around long before it was socially acceptable for a girl to be tattooed and before Hotrods became a mainstream thing. The pinups that graced the sides of B-17s over Germany were not the tattooed gearhead girls that seem to be associated with pinup these days. Vargas and Elvgren girls were and still remain graceful, dainty, ladylike and absolutely feminine, they dont scowl, they dont fight they simply are there allowing you a brief glimpse into their world of charming aloofness.

Hotrods didnt become a subculture until after WWII when our fighting men came back from England and Germany and realized that Detroit did offer vehicles of the sporting nature like a Morgan or an MG so they would convert Model A Fords to handle and brake like the European sports cars. Pinup was around 20-30 years before that.

So that said I am a purist, I am inspired by the style of the original pinup girls ! I guess one can say my tendencies tend to be purist on many levels even with cars. If it is from the 1930s-40s I want it bone stock and meticulously restored ! Anyone have a Packard for sale?

Louise LeMans said:

here, here! amen to that. knowing yourself and who you are is what's important, not whether you have ink. i never think of it as who's the "most" whatever or the "best" something else. Pinup isn't a contest (except when it is), it's a form of expression, and all forms are valid!

Miss Audrey Brooks said:

Well I would love to chime in on this. I do have one tiny tattoo and a few non obvious piercings and I consider myself to be very much a pinup girl. I never got the stringent rules that are beginning to come around when it comes to this. To me there are MANY types of pinup. I go for the classic, original, authentic 1920s-40s look. Some might think that boring but thats what suits me best. Not that I don't admire the tattooed hotties on here. I am not kitschy or outrageous and I don't actually wrench on cars or do any of that. I do help my husband from time to time with details on our cars but I don't weld or wrench. Remember that the girls that started all this the Betty Grables, the Rita Hayworths and the Louise Brookses never had tattoos. Neither did the beautifully rendered Elvgren or Vargas girls ! Me, I am al about classics, a purist so to speak. There is nothing wrong with either style or something n between. Best part of this is that there are really no rules, it is all attitude and soul ! Who are you on the inside?

[Miss Audrey Brooks]

Thats exactly who I am. I am all about the hat collecting and the vintage jewelry and shoes. I too have nothing against the whole Hot Rod/Kustom culture or agains tthe people. I love the carshows, the look, the style, the atmosphere but I will say that I dislike when only that style is given the nomenclature of "pinup". There are no prerequisites for pinup aside from a few particular conventions of depiction and portrayal. Pinups come and came in all guises in the classic era,from school teachers, to race car drivers,to school girls to Indian maidens. The key point is that there is room for us all = )

Louise LeMans said:

I agree with all that — I admire those girls, and have lots of friends who'd qualify — but you're more likely to find me digging though a box of vintage purses and gloves than under a car! To each their own, I say. Even though that's not my thing, I respect it!!

Ooooo, a Packard!! I am holding out hope for my grandpa's '53 Corvette, that he's been showing off at car shows for years as a proud GM retiree. :-P

Miss Audrey Brooks said:

Exactly Louise !

It is all about finding yourself and what you feel good with. As I mentioned before I do get kind of odd looks for not being all tatted up and not turning a wrench but Hot Rods and tattoos are not what defines Pinup. Pinup was around long before it was socially acceptable for a girl to be tattooed and before Hotrods became a mainstream thing. The pinups that graced the sides of B-17s over Germany were not the tattooed gearhead girls that seem to be associated with pinup these days. Vargas and Elvgren girls were and still remain graceful, dainty, ladylike and absolutely feminine, they dont scowl, they dont fight they simply are there allowing you a brief glimpse into their world of charming aloofness.

Hotrods didnt become a subculture until after WWII when our fighting men came back from England and Germany and realized that Detroit did offer vehicles of the sporting nature like a Morgan or an MG so they would convert Model A Fords to handle and brake like the European sports cars. Pinup was around 20-30 years before that.

So that said I am a purist, I am inspired by the style of the original pinup girls ! I guess one can say my tendencies tend to be purist on many levels even with cars. If it is from the 1930s-40s I want it bone stock and meticulously restored ! Anyone have a Packard for sale?

Louise LeMans said:

here, here! amen to that. knowing yourself and who you are is what's important, not whether you have ink. i never think of it as who's the "most" whatever or the "best" something else. Pinup isn't a contest (except when it is), it's a form of expression, and all forms are valid!

Miss Audrey Brooks said:

Well I would love to chime in on this. I do have one tiny tattoo and a few non obvious piercings and I consider myself to be very much a pinup girl. I never got the stringent rules that are beginning to come around when it comes to this. To me there are MANY types of pinup. I go for the classic, original, authentic 1920s-40s look. Some might think that boring but thats what suits me best. Not that I don't admire the tattooed hotties on here. I am not kitschy or outrageous and I don't actually wrench on cars or do any of that. I do help my husband from time to time with details on our cars but I don't weld or wrench. Remember that the girls that started all this the Betty Grables, the Rita Hayworths and the Louise Brookses never had tattoos. Neither did the beautifully rendered Elvgren or Vargas girls ! Me, I am al about classics, a purist so to speak. There is nothing wrong with either style or something n between. Best part of this is that there are really no rules, it is all attitude and soul ! Who are you on the inside?