Pinup and Porn.. where is the line? NWS!! SORRY!!!

[PunkGirl_Inc]

Ok.. so i was looking at this new site thing, pinupparkinglot.. or whatever.. it seems like, to me, that a LOT of pinup models are getting more and more edgy.. or.. naked..
I know there different categories of modeling, but where does the line get drawn as far as pinup style portfolios??
is this pinup?
http://www.pinupparkinglot.com/blog_uploads/2009/01/_mg_6551-editwe...

or should these be considered somethign else??
this?:
http://www.pinupparkinglot.com/blog_uploads/2009/01/angem-012608-ch...

ABSOLUTELY NO OFFENSE to the photographers or models.. these photos are beautiful.. but are they "pinups"?????

[Lainey Belle{★}]

I agree with what most are saying as well. Great photos, yes. Pinup, no. Fetish, yes. I like to think of Pinup more as a tease. Something that leaves a bit of mystery, but enough to get em good and hungry. hehe. That's my opinion.

[Kayla Sig]

I don't think they're pin up at all. I agree with you. They look more like porn.

[Veronica Wilde]

I'm thinking these don't look like pinup shots at all to me. More like fetish or porn, but not pinup...

[ladyj]

PORN! Sorry butespecially that first one! She's screwing a shoe!