Horrible men

[Anita Fixx]

How do you deal with jerks who throw out the word "b****" simply because you know your rights and are being appropiately assertive? I find it VERY distribing that men can spew words like "b****" and "slut" so easily to any female who isn't afraid to speak up. Sexism is alive and well...it's really f*****' sad considering the year is 2010..when is this going to be a dead issue? Why are there so many guys out there who treat women like s***? Or is it just Toronto? Maybe all the gentlemen are elsewhere...yeah, this is why I'm single. Anyways what do you think of this issue? How do you deal with it?

[Edson Carlos]

LOL!

Chop & Go {PLA} said:

yea, if they are not taken by their cousins...

Edson C. {PL} said:

AMAZING! No wonder Desi had to be imported from across state lines, Kentucky is where the good girls hide! The secret is out...

Inga Coy said:

Good men are hiding from the bad girls just like the Good girls are hiding from bad boys.

[Honey B Hooligan {Madam}]

BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Desi's gonna Git'cha for that one!!!!

Chop & Go {PLA} said:

yea, if they are not taken by their cousins...

Edson C. {PL} said:

AMAZING! No wonder Desi had to be imported from across state lines, Kentucky is where the good girls hide! The secret is out...

Inga Coy said:

Good men are hiding from the bad girls just like the Good girls are hiding from bad boys.

[Anita Fixx]

Two wrongs do NOT make a right. Just women treat each other like garbage doesn't mean men should or have the right to.
I feel that you would'nt be judging me so harshly if you have any idea about half the things that I've been through in relationships. I've have an ex-boyfriend how tried to punch me...do you think he was right? Do you blame me because of my "negative attitude"?

Roxy Tart {M} said:

I don't deal with this issue. In fact, I think Edson is right, these days we give as good as we get. Sexism is alive and well in both genders. The days of men talking down on women and women taking it are long gone. I use the word b**** and slut way more often then any of the men in my life. And those men that I come across that do choose to use those terms to talk about me or other women, get called a****** in return. If they are using it when a woman speaks up for herself, then it is very obvious that they are dealing with some issues of their own. They most likely aren't really being sexist, just scared.

In fact, some might say that your whole post was incredibly sexist. Maybe your single because you have such a low opinion of men.

[Anita Fixx]

Thank you for your support and not jumping to conclusions and juding me like others have done. Yes, I've had horrible, god awful relationships in the past. I feel that I was taken advantage of in every way possible...just used. Those men NEVER love me or appreciated me yet I gave so much love...why did I even bother? I feel so used up and I never want to be ina relationship again because of all those previous abuses.

Cherri Bombe said:

Some men feel that their masculinity is threatened by a strong woman. So, they do what they know best; try to make her feel bad about herself by calling her sexist names. These are not real men. They are insecure children trapped in men's bodies!
By the way, this is not a sexist post. And I don't think the reason you're single is because you have a low opinion of men. If you've only encountered immature child-men, you're better off single!

[Edson Carlos]

None of us could deduct or assume whether you deserved a punch or not, however it would be quite sexist to assume that because you're a girl you shouldn't get a punch if indeed it was deserved.


Anita Fixx said:

Two wrongs do NOT make a right. Just women treat each other like garbage doesn't mean men should or have the right to.
I feel that you would'nt be judging me so harshly if you have any idea about half the things that I've been through in relationships. I've have an ex-boyfriend how tried to punch me...do you think he was right? Do you blame me because of my "negative attitude"?

Roxy Tart {M} said:

I don't deal with this issue. In fact, I think Edson is right, these days we give as good as we get. Sexism is alive and well in both genders. The days of men talking down on women and women taking it are long gone. I use the word b**** and slut way more often then any of the men in my life. And those men that I come across that do choose to use those terms to talk about me or other women, get called a****** in return. If they are using it when a woman speaks up for herself, then it is very obvious that they are dealing with some issues of their own. They most likely aren't really being sexist, just scared.

In fact, some might say that your whole post was incredibly sexist. Maybe your single because you have such a low opinion of men.

[Anita Fixx]

Edson, I NEVER mentioned you in my rant. I was specific and clear that it was about LOCAL, Toronto guys. Don't take it personally ok?

Edson C. {PL} said:

Girls toss it out to girls all day long, possibly more than men do in a single day. Why isolate men in the question?

Guys get a******, and jerk from girls just as often but I wouldn't consider it sexist. Hell, I just got called horrible in a thread generalizing men.

[Anita Fixx]

That's disturbing...you really think violence is ok? Sorry, there's something VERY wrong with that!

Edson C. {PL} said:

None of us could deduct or assume whether you deserved a punch or not, however it would be quite sexist to assume that because you're a girl you shouldn't get a punch if indeed it was deserved.


Anita Fixx said:

Two wrongs do NOT make a right. Just women treat each other like garbage doesn't mean men should or have the right to.
I feel that you would'nt be judging me so harshly if you have any idea about half the things that I've been through in relationships. I've have an ex-boyfriend how tried to punch me...do you think he was right? Do you blame me because of my "negative attitude"?

Roxy Tart {M} said:

I don't deal with this issue. In fact, I think Edson is right, these days we give as good as we get. Sexism is alive and well in both genders. The days of men talking down on women and women taking it are long gone. I use the word b**** and slut way more often then any of the men in my life. And those men that I come across that do choose to use those terms to talk about me or other women, get called a****** in return. If they are using it when a woman speaks up for herself, then it is very obvious that they are dealing with some issues of their own. They most likely aren't really being sexist, just scared.

In fact, some might say that your whole post was incredibly sexist. Maybe your single because you have such a low opinion of men.

[Anita Fixx]

Yeah...I don't think anyone should look up to a show like "Jerry Springer" to model their behaviour. What do we get from that? People who are rude, violent and vicious..how does that help? How does that make us any better then animals?

Inga Coy said:

I don't find the words sexist I find them hilarious. Women call each other b****, slut, whore, and shoot a lot worse more often then men do. I mean watch a show of Jerry Springer lol or any show on the television and see that. It's crazy. So I just say Thank you when someone calls me a b**** of I will say that is Queen B**** to you. If they call me a slut or a whore I will just say "Yeah but I am not YOUR slut or whore" Being a smart ass about it shows people in general both men & women that what they said don't bother me there for usually ticking them off more.

About the single thing hon where are you looking for men. You have to think you are not going to find mister right in certain places. Good men are hiding from the bad girls just like the Good girls are hiding from bad boys.

[Edson Carlos]

I'm the least violent person you could ever come across...what I think is that you're tossing around the word sexist and it could be bent around so many different scenarios. Is it really sexist to call someone a b****? Is it sexist to think that a man can't punch a woman? I mean, girls are equal right?


Anita Fixx said:

That's disturbing...you really think violence is ok? Sorry, there's something VERY wrong with that!

Edson C. {PL} said:

None of us could deduct or assume whether you deserved a punch or not, however it would be quite sexist to assume that because you're a girl you shouldn't get a punch if indeed it was deserved.


Anita Fixx said:

Two wrongs do NOT make a right. Just women treat each other like garbage doesn't mean men should or have the right to.
I feel that you would'nt be judging me so harshly if you have any idea about half the things that I've been through in relationships. I've have an ex-boyfriend how tried to punch me...do you think he was right? Do you blame me because of my "negative attitude"?

Roxy Tart {M} said:

I don't deal with this issue. In fact, I think Edson is right, these days we give as good as we get. Sexism is alive and well in both genders. The days of men talking down on women and women taking it are long gone. I use the word b**** and slut way more often then any of the men in my life. And those men that I come across that do choose to use those terms to talk about me or other women, get called a****** in return. If they are using it when a woman speaks up for herself, then it is very obvious that they are dealing with some issues of their own. They most likely aren't really being sexist, just scared.

In fact, some might say that your whole post was incredibly sexist. Maybe your single because you have such a low opinion of men.

[Anita Fixx]

Yeah..I look at movies from that era (40s and 50s) and I wonder how things went so wrong..People used to use more words then "b****" and "slut". They actually had a more extensive vocubalary..they were actually polite and nice to people even the cashier at the store. So what the hell happened? How did we get from that to hitting each other with chairs on shows like "Springer"? Why can't we go back to treating each other with respect and some kindness?

Vivacious Elizabeth said:

I am sorry Anita that you experienced something like that. I often feel like "the Girl Anachronism " Where are the dating rituals and gentleman of the 40's and 50's. I am not saying all of it...but some of it.

I have quite a few guy friends and I call them out for "Slut" and "B****" behavior allot. I think the terms are becoming derogatory on either side at this point.

Personally when I meet a guy, I "demand" to be treated well. It sounds bad but If I just expect to be treated well it never works out. In fact I only attract that type of guy, the others see that I am serious and just don't try. Guys that do "misbehave" find out real quick I am better at "moving on" then them.

If I can say anything, don't play the game or try to fix or bring down your standards. Figure out the social and the private standards...I have dated some in the past that are complete a**** to other people in public; however in public with or without me public or private are respectful, affectionate, and defensive of me.

If you find out what you need ..then you get more of what you want. =))

Double Kisses
V.E.

[Anita Fixx]

Agreed, these words are OVER-used. I'm going to do my best to not use them anymore because I don't want to be like everybody else. I'd like to elevate the level of conversation if I can. I admit it'll be difficult because I practically grew up listening to punk rock and I still do. Yeah..it's not the best use of language so I'll have to force myself to use a better vocabulary.
Oh and it's not generalizing,it's my own experience. You don't know what that is so you don't know if I'm really generalizing or not.

Desirée {PL} said:

The term 'b****' is overused and only appropriately so 40% of the time. I completely agree with Edson and Roxy.
What's the difference in that guy (or a girl!) calling you a b**** and you saying this:
"I hate the guys in this city they're always rude jerks."
That sounds like a pretty generalized and completely unfair statement. Calling a man a jerk and him calling you a b**** sounds, by your definition, equally sexist to me. Besides, I'll call any dude a b****.

b****
–noun
a. a malicious, unpleasant, selfish person

[Desirée {PL Team}]

That's a great response, Alice. Interesting insight, different from anyone else's, I like it!